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83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby 83T/A » Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:47 pm

Hi everyone,

I just joined and just purchased a 1983 Trans Am. :D It needs some work but there is no rot on it and the T-tops don't leak. I need to re-do the seats but the rest of the interior is in good shape. It is red with a black bottom and black decals. I has a LG4 305 in it with a 700r4 transmission and a 3.23 posi drum rear-end. It is all original and not beat the crap out of. It still has all the smog stuff on it and doesn't set a check engine light. It has 144k original miles on it. I plan on doing valve seals in the springtime and also an original looking paint job too. It has a cool functional hood scoop on it, but I want a L69 dual snorkel one and use the top of my curent one. I am unsure if I want to get rid of all the smog stuff since it is working ok. If I keep it I do want to get a straigt pipe with the air valve on it. If some one can recommend or advise me regarding the smog stuff I'd really appreciate it. I know I have an ecm and I really do not want it to go haywire if it is removed. If gas milage suffers greatly by removing it I just may leave it on. I would like to get some rockers and new springs too since I am going to do valve seals. Do they make a self-aligning rocker for my stock heads? I'd like to go 1.6's and keep my original cam. I also want to get some headers too. Shiny ones... It still has the original cat-back on it and it isn't all rusted out either. I want to keep the originl engine but lightly modify it a bit. Sorry to sound so excited but I haven't had a car like this in a long time. It also has black mesh w/ polished lip GTA rims on it with no curb rash. Whoever had this car before me took care of it. Thanks for listening to my rant and any advice is greatly appreciated.

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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby wolfdart42 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:33 pm

Welcome!!!

we all sound excited when we get new toys. :jive:

oh yeah pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby GPSkinzhut » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:39 am

Welcome Mike! Yeah definitely put up some pics! :wtg:
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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby camaro1185 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:03 am

Welcome, glad to see lots of people in the past couple of weeks showing up with more and more clean third gens!
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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby 83T/A » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:20 pm

Thanks guys.

Here are some links to some pics. The front one now has new black grills on there. Enjoy...

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These are not the best pics but these are the before ones. I'll have it almost all done by May or June of 2012.

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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby LeadFootedRacer » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:16 pm

MIKE! Glad to see you made it man. Great group of guys here. Some I've never met, but the ones I have, hands down some of the best guys I know.

What's with the 4th gen tips on your "stock" exhaust? "SLP" emblem on left rear tail light? You hiding something?
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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby 83T/A » Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:11 pm

Yup, those are SLP knock off 4th gen tips on a stock exhaust. They were on there when I bought the car. The mufflers show little to no rust at all on them. I'd like to remove the cat and put a straight pipe on it with an air tube. I also want to put some headers on it but I do not know what to remove for the smog stuff. I may just get some headers with air-tubes on it but the cat is going... I am sure I will need everyones' expetrise on here and I really appreciate you all sharing the knowledge. I can't wait till this Sunday since it will be in the 60's and very sunny. :D

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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby LeadFootedRacer » Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:18 pm

I don't think you need any of the smog controlled crap. Its all just junk anyhow. I will suggest staying away from Flowtech Headers. Cheap, yes, and fit like garbage. I had a set on my '87 T/A, big mistake.
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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby 83T/A » Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:27 pm

Flowtech's are not on the list. Thanks for the heads up. If I get headers I was going with ceramic coated Pacesetters with their coated y-pipe with a cat-delete and for now into the stock exhaust. Do they make a smog pump delete pulley kit that is NOT for serp. set up? Do they make a 1.6 self-aligning roller rocker for this car? I know they do for the LS engines. Thanks in advance.

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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby LeadFootedRacer » Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:42 pm

There is no need for a special rocker, just grap a set of 1.6 rollers and go! Lol I would also reccomend doing an LT4 hot cam or a zz4 cam and a new timing set. 144k miles is quite a bit for a sbc, when you start getting into mods. The cam/lifter setup can be had for cheap, and you know I'd be there in a flash to help you toss it together. Saturday afternoon (literally, I've done a few) with some booze and some skid row. Can't hurt to have a fresh set of intake gaskets to help ease the mind.

Also, yes. There is a delete pulley. Its ccalled cut the belt. Because it is V-belt, none of the other accesories are affrected by the removal of the pump. :mrgreen:
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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby John in RI » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:13 pm

Ya',.... If your gonna' go with headers than go non-smog. While your installing them you can remove all the "stuff' that you don't need anymore. I'd also recomend a Cat too,...... they make V-Good high flow cats these days !

P.S. That car looks GREAT ! Is that factory Paint ??


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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby Brother Al » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:16 pm

Welcome to NECF! Another Early 3rd Gen Bird in the Mix! Awesome! +2 on adding a high flow cat... Keeping the smog stuff doesn't hurt performance that much unless you plan to go drag racing often.
With that combo and a fully operational CCC system, you should be able to pull an avg of at least 23 mpg on the highway, so long as you stay out of the secondaries. As much as people say the LG4 smog stuff is junk, its actually a damn good system, if all of its parts are in good shape and the carb isn't tired... here's an article in our Tech Articles section that will help you understand the system.
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=4417

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In the mid 90's GM created the ZZ4 HO 350, 50 state legal, full engine swap kit for all '82-'87 F-body's equipped originally with LG4 305's or the 'late '83 to early '86 L69, and it used ALL of the stock-type "CCC" system pieces.
It was a 100% smog legal, turn key, 300hp/360lbft Tq, 350 engine swap. It added EVERYTHING you need to make the swap.

Here's a link to my article on this engine swap. There's a whole bunch of 305 stuff in it, but the ZZ4 info is there too with all of the GM PN's.
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GM disco'd the kit and a bunch of the parts, but you can still pretty much replicate it if you source similar parts.
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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby 83T/A » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:38 pm

When it is time; I will go digging into the engine. Over the winter I want to take care of the interior and the outside paint. If I do mod this, it will be very mildly modded. Nothing major. Headers, cat-back and deciding to remove the smog stuff. It all does function with no-check engine lights. The only light that stays on it the "fasten sealt-belt" one. lol.... Smog headers are alot more than regular ones. The carb works great. Way better than I ever expected to be quite honest. The car doesn't hesitate or bog at all. The choke works good. I am unsure if it needs valve seals or not...? When I check the oil dipstick it still reads the same. When I purchased the car I found FelPro valve seals in the center console so I figred it may need them. I had to change the air-filter and breather element since the other ones were really dirty. After I changed those the check engine light went off. Before hand it used to come on and go off. Now it stays off. The transmission shifts well and goes through all the gears great. I am sure it could use a filter change and new fluid. Which reminds me, does the 700r4 use dexron fluid? Would dexron 6 be Ok? How many quarts does it take to fill it when you do a fluid change? Is it ok if I change the engine oil to synthetics? I think regular oil is/was being used. I use Royal Purple in my other car. Sorry for all the questions...


It is factory paint. It does need a paint job though. The clear is starting to bubble on the top of the drivers side fender. There are small pits on one of the outside sail panels and some door dings need to be fixed. Up close the decals look like crap. It has no rot in all the common problem areas and just a dime sized surface rust spot at the bottom of the right ft. fender. The bottom of the doors are in good shape, the hatch has no rust or rot, the floors are solid and so are the wheel wells and the spare tire place is solid too. Plus, the t-tops do not leak. I picked the car up for $2,650.00. Plus, it has a really nice system in it already. The seat covers are $hit though. Rug is clean and no worn spots. The dash pad has two cracks in it. I plan on getting a dash carpet to put over it unless I can find an un-cracked one cheap. The headliner is not sagging. Hell, even the seat-belt retractors work. My next purchase is hood struts and new seat covers (real covers). She is being driven this Sunday if it's nice out. My GXP is way faster but the T/A is much more my style. I have a soft spot for the T/A...

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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby 83T/A » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:41 pm

Thanks for the info Jeremy. I am still undecided what to do for the smog crap since it all works good. I want to drive it so bad... I hope it's nice out Sunday. I want to take my kid out in it. lol...

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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby 83T/A » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:10 pm

Update:

In the last few weeks a bunch of new things went on it, mostly for safety reasons. New Monroe Sensa-Trac ft. struts and rear shocks. New Moog rear cargo coils. New ft. brake pads and rotors as well as inner and outer bearings. New hood struts, new wipers. New brake pedal pad. New master cyl. since the old one was leaking. New autolite double platinum plugs. New front grills. Next on the list is new ball joints and all new tie-rods and idler-arm. Then it is new sway bar bushings and new end-links. Well, that's probably it before Christmas.

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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby John in RI » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:12 pm

That's a nice batch of updates !! I'm very sure that your car is gonna' ride like a totally different car after that group of repairs !!


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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby LeadFootedRacer » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:15 pm

Its gunna look great too, once I re-align your nose, and shoot it with some fresh paint.
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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby topspeed » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:57 pm

83T/A wrote:Thanks guys.

Here are some links to some pics. The front one now has new black grills on there. Enjoy...


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Nice looking car. Did you buy those grill covers at a swap meet? I sold a pair to someone who just bought a early third gen.
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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby nick86z28 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:31 pm

I would take all that stupid smog s**t out thats what i did and my car sounds and runs 100% better.
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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby Brother Al » Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:04 am

See above post Nick...
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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby 83T/A » Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:15 am

Thanks guys. I'd like to have most of the restoration done by June but we'll see. If everythign goes as planned, maybe sooner.... :twisted:

I can't wait for the new paint job. I can already pisture this car finished....

The grills I got from Classic Industries. They cost $144.00 shipped for both, but they are brand new. Here is the link: http://www.classicindustries.com/firebi ... 14437.html

I am going to take the smog stuff off. I will need you for that too Jeremy. I will deal with the paint job 1st though. More updates to come... Thanks for all the positive comments. It makes doing this much more enjoyable when you can share it with like-minded poeple.

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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby nick86z28 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:13 am

Brother Al wrote:See above post Nick...


I know it doesnt do much to bog it dowm but im just saying since he doesnt have to pass emissions and wants to put on headers he mine as well take it out
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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby topspeed » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:28 am

Wow...$144. I sold a guy a set of mine that weren't to bad for twenty bucks. Dam, I should have asked more. But if it is someone who has the same passion as I do with the third gens... We are both winners. Good luck wit the restore project. I have one of my own going on now. I love the positive feedback that this site has...It keeps me going.
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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby 83T/A » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:11 pm

Yeah, the price for the grills was steep but it was a birthday present from my wife. She just got me an UMI wonderbar too for the T/A and some 255/45r18's for my Pontiac Grand Prix GXP. :D


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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby GPSkinzhut » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:14 pm

83T/A wrote:Yeah, the price for the grills was steep but it was a birthday present from my wife. She just got me an UMI wonderbar too for the T/A and some 255/45r18's for my Pontiac Grand Prix GXP. :D


-Mike


She's a keeper :wtg:
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Re: 83 Trans Am (New guy)

Postby 83T/A » Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:18 pm

She sure is. She said she doesn't care what I do to it as long as the bills are paid. lol...

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